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	<itunes:summary>The pm411.org Project Management Podcast is dedicated to help you at your job as a Project Manager or Program Manager, regardless if you have years of experience, or if you are just starting on your journey in Project Management.  pm411.org is a place where you can come to find the latest in PM tools, PM Templates, PM tips, and PMI (PMBOK) methodologies that have been found to help others.  It is a place where discussions can be had with project managers from around the globe and in every industry where project management permeates in our Project Management discussion forums.  It is a place where you can find the best Project Management links to other sites dedicated to our wonderful profession.</itunes:summary>
	<itunes:author>Ron Holohan, MBA PMP</itunes:author>
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		<title>Podcast episode 067: stop playing games!</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 05:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you ever get tired of playing games? No. I’m not talking about Scrabble or poker or even Dungeons and Dragons Online in which incidentally, I am a current fourth level paladin. No, rather I’m speaking about the games that we get to play every day as project managers. What games you ask? Oh, you know the ones like “The Pricing Game,” “Guess the Truth,” and “Grapevine.” Well, lucky for us, Rick Morris, PMP, provides some strategies on how to win at these games. Rick Morris is the best-selling author of the book Stop Playing Games: A Project Manager’s Guide to Successfully Navigating Organizational Politics. This book, from the author of Project Management That Works and The Everything Project Management Book, dives deep into topics of gaining buy-in from upper management, accurately estimating timing and cost, controlling project communications, managing within a corporate culture, taking care of your team, and more. The Inspiration Behind the Book Frustration was one of the factors that inspired Rick to write Stop Playing Games. Frustration often occurs when project managers are ask to try to beat impossible deadlines with budgets and dates that they didn’t help set and without the authority to be successful.  [...]]]></description>
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			<itunes:subtitle>Do you ever get tired of playing games? - No. Iâm not talking about Scrabble or poker or even Dungeons and Dragons Online in which incidentally, I am a current fourth level paladin. No, rather Iâm speaking about the games that we get to play every...</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Do you ever get tired of playing games?

No. Iâm not talking about Scrabble or poker or even Dungeons and Dragons Online in which incidentally, I am a current fourth level paladin. No, rather Iâm speaking about the games that we get to play every day as project managers. What games you ask? Oh, you know the ones like âThe Pricing Game,â âGuess the Truth,â and âGrapevine.â

Well, lucky for us, Rick Morris, PMP, provides some strategies on how to win at these games. Rick Morris is the best-selling author of the book Stop Playing Games: A Project Managerâs Guide to Successfully Navigating Organizational Politics. This book, from the author of Project Management That Works and The Everything Project Management Book, dives deep into topics of gaining buy-in from upper management, accurately estimating timing and cost, controlling project communications, managing within a corporate culture, taking care of your team, and more.
The Inspiration Behind the Book
Frustration was one of the factors that inspired Rick to write Stop Playing Games.

Frustration often occurs when project managers are ask to try to beat impossible deadlines with budgets and dates that they didnât help set and without the authority to be successful.Â  Then, often we get to take the blame for when it all goes wrong!

Luckily, Rick has worked with a lot of executives, both as a consultant and as a project manager, and has been able to help many see that their team leaders actually share the same goals that they have.

In the end, weâre all people and we all want to be successful. By applying tips from Rickâs book, project managers can help their executives look so much better than they do today. In the long run, together we can stop playing these games and just have an honest relationship and become successful together. So, who&#039;s ready for a hug?
The Current Status of Project Management
Rick contends that the current status of project management is that a lot of people want a âquick fixâ to improve corporate efficiency and they think that Project Management might be able to provide that, but they donât want to put in the needed work to make the process changes to truly get the benefit of doing it the right way.

One of the reasons we try to play âgamesâ is because, just like when &quot;Six Sigma&quot; was new to organizations ten years ago, Project Management is new to a lot of organizations today. If you remember when Six Sigma became so prevalent, you had stories of Motorola and GE getting all these gains and successes from implementing Six Sigma. They had these results that suggested that if you brought a certified &quot;Master Black Belt&quot; in, your organization would suddenly become tremendously more efficient overnight.

Although organizations are starting to recognize that Project Management does bring dividends, they still donât know exactly how to help project managers do their jobs succesfully. Whatâs happening is they think âOh, we just established a Project Managemetn Office (PMO), now weâre finally going to have better project predictability.â Unfortunately, the problem is that organizations donât want to put in the effort to really change any of their processes.

Perhaps they read some journal article that said, âHey, if you hire a project manager, you can get results.â

So, they go and hire a PMP. But they don&#039;t provide the time or budget to effectively plan and execute the project. Soon the top floor wants to know âWhere are these results we were promised?â

As a result, in many cases project managers simply end up being big paper pushers and additional money gets spent to bring in consultants to figure out that the organization&#039;s processes and expectations never got changed to allow projects to come in under budget, under schedule, and within scope.
When I grow up, I want to be a Project Manager
Most of us really didnât plan to become a project manager.</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Are you influencing or manipulating your team?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 03:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ron Holohan, MBA PMP</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe that you cannot change anyone&#8217;s mind.  And no one can change your mind.  Only you can decide to change your own mind.  But, you can influence others to decide to change their minds.  It is also possible to manipulate people to decide to change their minds.  A website chocked full of examples of both techniques is ChangingMinds.org. I am pretty intrigued with the art of influencing others and I am constantly looking for new ways to do so.  However, this is different than manipulating others.  I make a conscious effort not to manipulate others.  So what is the difference between influence and manipulation? Merriam-Webster defines influence as &#8220;the act or power of producing an effect without apparent exertion of force or direct exercise of command&#8221;, whereas manipulation is &#8220;to control or play upon by artful, unfair, or insidious means especially to one&#8217;s own advantage.&#8221; David Maxfield states in The Influencer Blog that a good check for whether you are trying to influence or manipulate someone is through using a discovery test.  Would your action lose power if people knew what you were doing and why?  If your action would lose power, then it is manipulation.  If it doesn&#8217;t lose power, it is influence. For example, if you went [...]]]></description>
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		<title>Podcast episode 025:  successful negotiation skills (part 2 of 2)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 04:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ron Holohan, MBA PMP</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In today&#8217;s second of two podcasts in a series on project management negotiation skills, we continue our discussion on principled negotiation with Joe Friedman, of the consulting group Zehren-Friedman Associates, Ltd. Joe holds a BSBA and MBA from Ohio State University and has over 25 years of sales, sales management and training / consulting experience. With many years providing sales and management training programs at Northeastern Illinois University, First National Bank of Chicago, and The Executive Technique, a firm specializing in presentation skills training, Joe teamed up with David Zehren in 1993 to create Zehren-Friedman Associates, Ltd. Their 13-person firm is entering its 18th year in business and specializes in teaching the “persuasive arts” of selling, presenting, negotiating and influencing. Clients are in a wide variety of industries, from banking to health-care to printing to advertising to services to manufacturing and everything in-between. Joe is responsible for client development, program delivery, people development within the firm, and holds the title of CFO. Show Commentary As discussed in Part 1, as you enter a negotiation, you want to try to start the process by &#8220;growing the pie&#8221; and creating a win-win outcome.  But what happens when that is not possible?  Then you [...]]]></description>
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		<itunes:subtitle>In today&#039;s second of two podcasts in a series on project management negotiation skills, we continue our discussion onÂ principled negotiation with Joe Friedman, of the consulting group Zehren-Friedman Associates, Ltd.  - </itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>In today&#039;s second of two podcasts in a series on project management negotiation skills, we continue our discussion onÂ principled negotiation with Joe Friedman, of the consulting group Zehren-Friedman Associates, Ltd. 

Joe holds a BSBA and MBA from ...</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Podcast episode 024:  successful negotiation skills (part 1 of 2)</title>
		<link>http://pm411.org/2008/02/20/podcast-episode-024-successful-negotiation-skills-part-1-of-2/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 03:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ron Holohan, MBA PMP</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In today&#8217;s first of two podcasts in a series on project management negotiation skills, we discuss methods of principled negotiation with Joe Friedman, of the consulting group Zehren-Friedman Associates, Ltd.  Joe holds a BSBA and MBA from Ohio State University and has over 25 years of sales, sales management and training / consulting experience.  With many years providing sales and management training programs at Northeastern Illinois University, First National Bank of Chicago, and The Executive Technique, a firm specializing in presentation skills training, Joe teamed up with David Zehren in 1993 to create Zehren-Friedman Associates, Ltd.  Their 13-person firm is entering its 18th year in business and specializes in teaching the “persuasive arts” of selling, presenting, negotiating and influencing.  Clients are in a wide variety of industries, from banking to healthcare to printing to advertising to services to manufacturing and everything in-between.  Joe is responsible for client development, program delivery, people development within the firm, and holds the title of CFO. Show Commentary As Zehren-Friedman Associates is quick to point out, history and literature offer many examples of persuasive but unprincipled characters &#8211; from the devil to traveling medicine men selling miracle cures to even modern day companies promising products and results that [...]]]></description>
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		<itunes:summary>In today&#039;s first of two podcasts in a series on project management negotiation skills, we discuss methods of principled negotiation with Joe Friedman, of the consulting group Zehren-Friedman Associates, Ltd.Â 

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