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	<itunes:summary>The pm411.org Project Management Podcast is dedicated to help you at your job as a Project Manager or Program Manager, regardless if you have years of experience, or if you are just starting on your journey in Project Management.  pm411.org is a place where you can come to find the latest in PM tools, PM Templates, PM tips, and PMI (PMBOK) methodologies that have been found to help others.  It is a place where discussions can be had with project managers from around the globe and in every industry where project management permeates in our Project Management discussion forums.  It is a place where you can find the best Project Management links to other sites dedicated to our wonderful profession.</itunes:summary>
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		<description><![CDATA[Get the pm411.org Project Management Podcast Newsletter delivered by email for free! &#8211; Your email address and personal information are confidential and will never be sold or rented. Way back in Episode 004, I discussed one of the key building blocks of a successful project, known as the Work Breakdown Structure or WBS.  However, it is pretty evident that there is still a lot of confusion in Project Management on whether we truly need a WBS on our projects, how to structure a WBS, and how to use it throughout a project’s lifecycle.  In this episode I welcome back to the show pmstudent.com blogger and WBS expert Josh Nankivel as we dive deeper into the topic of the Work Breakdown Structure. Josh  has recently published a set of training tools called the WBS coach to help those of us that need to know how to create a WBS or those of us that just need a refresher on WBS development.  So is the WBS just…  BS?  Josh and I talk about why more PMs don’t use the WBS, we discuss whether it really helps in project planning, and finally we talk about the right and wrong ways of developing a [...]]]></description>
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		<itunes:summary>Get the pm411.org Project Management Podcast Newsletter delivered by email for free! - Your email address and personal information are confidential and will never be sold or rented.

Way back in Episode 004, I discussed one of the key building blocks of a successful project, known as the Work Breakdown Structure or WBS.Â  However, it is pretty evident that there is still a lot of confusion in Project Management on whether we truly need a WBS on our projects, how to structure a WBS, and how to use it throughout a projectâs lifecycle.Â  In this episode I welcome back to the show pmstudent.com blogger and WBS expert Josh Nankivel as we dive deeper into the topic of the Work Breakdown Structure.

JoshÂ  has recently published a set of training tools called the WBS coach to help those of us that need to know how to create a WBS or those of us that just need a refresher on WBS development.Â  So is the WBS justâ¦Â  BS?Â  Josh and I talk about why more PMs donât use the WBS, we discuss whether it really helps in project planning, and finally we talk about the right and wrong ways of developing a WBS.

So what the heck is a WBS?

The WBS is a special kind of outline for your project.Â  It is deliverables-based, focused on project results, andÂ usually includes a graphic hierarchy and a WBS dictionary.Â  Basically, it is a representation of your project scope.

However, the WBS is not a task list, organizational chart, and it shouldnât be time phased.

Why should teams use Work Breakdown Structures?

A lot of project managers donât use a WBS as a tool on their project, or they see it as just another piece of paperwork.Â  But the WBS is the representation of scope on your project.Â  All deliverables, services, outcomes of your project should be covered by your project WBS.

The WBS also provides clear definition of what the project will be producing.Â  It provides a common language and helps to structure reporting so that there is a common understanding with stakeholders.Â  It also provides a strong foundation for your project.

The WBS also helps with clear change control.Â  The WBS provides traceability if anything changes to help team members and stakeholders understand how changes impact the project.

Parts of the Work Breakdown Structure

The âWBS Graphicâ includes some kind visual hierarchy of the scope and how the deliverables are related.Â  There are a lot of tools that can create a WBS hierarchyÂ â mindmaps, Visio, and even Microsoft Word.

The âWBS Dictionaryâ goes into detail on each deliverable of the WBS.Â  The key to the WBS dictionary is to first define what is included and then create the details of what that deliverable is.Â  Many teams also create an âexclusions listâ that specifies what is not included in the project scope in order to provide additional clarity to what the team is planning on delivering.

âDeliverablesâ can be defined as anything that is results-oriented (e.g. a system, a sub-system, etc.)

Josh differs from the PMI on the definition of âactivities.âÂ  Josh sees activities as a special kind of deliverable that are service-oriented (e.g. âproject management,â âconfiguration management,â etc.)

The âwork packageâ is the lowest level of your WBS after decomposition.Â  You will later want to use your work packages to do activity definition, duration estimations, cost estimations, etc.

âControl accountsâ track your costs and progress on a particular piece of the WBS.Â  However, again, tasks are not part of the Work Breakdown Structure.

So, why is there so much confusion around the WBS?

One reason is because the WBS is typically understated in many PM textbooks and PM classes.Â  Whenever it is mentioned, it is usually just presented as a basic overview rather than providing details on how to create and manage a WBS.Â  Also, there is quite a bit of disagreement on how to create and use the WBS.Â  Unfortunately,</itunes:summary>
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		<title>Podcast episode 026:  The meaning of life or at least of process groups</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#160; So, do you know what the difference is between project phases and project management process groups?  I recently received an email from Emmanuel, and guess what?  Emmanuel wants to know what the difference is between project management phases and project management process groups!  Wow, Good question, Emmanuel, and thank you for your email!  I like getting email, and I like getting email concerning project management topics even more.  I guess I am just kind of silly in that regard.  But, before talking about the differences between project phases and process groups, we need to first understand the difference between Project Lifecycles and Product Lifecycles. Product and Project Lifecycles  A product lifecycle includes everything from a product&#8217;s first concept to the point when the product is eventually discontinued and made into that EBay collectable that you are sure your Aunt Sally would love!  And within the product lifecycle, we have the project lifecycle.  The project lifecycle is a subset of the product lifecycle, where the product or service is developed and goes from initial concept to initial production.  So, to summarize, the Project Lifecycle is the process whereby the product is created, and Product Lifecycle is the entire life of [...]]]></description>
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		<itunes:subtitle>  So, do you know what the difference is between project phases and project management process groups?Â  - I recently received an email from Emmanuel, and guess what?Â  Emmanuel wants to know what the difference is between project management phases a...</itunes:subtitle>
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So, do you know what the difference is between project phases and project management process groups?Â 

I recently received an email from Emmanuel, and guess what?Â  Emmanuel wants to know what the difference is between project management phases and project management process groups!Â  Wow, Good question, Emmanuel, and thank you for your email!Â  I like getting email, and I like getting email concerning project management topics even more.Â  I guess I am just kind of silly in that regard.Â  But, before talking about the differences between project phases and process groups, we need to first understand the difference between Project Lifecycles and Product Lifecycles.
Product and Project LifecyclesÂ 
A product lifecycle includes everything from a product&#039;s first concept to the point when the product is eventually discontinued and made into that EBay collectable that you are sure your Aunt Sally would love! Â And within the product lifecycle, we have the project lifecycle.Â  The project lifecycle is a subset of the product lifecycle, where the product or service is developed and goes from initial concept to initial production.Â  So, to summarize, the Project Lifecycle is the process whereby the product is created, and Product Lifecycle is the entire life of the product.Confused yet?Â  Well hang on to your saddle as we start down the path of project phases and process groups.Â  Yee Haw!
Project Phases
Project phases are discrete sections of the project lifecycle that are established to help projects follow a common process methodology within an organization.Â  Not all organizations use project phases, although there are many good reasons to use them, including:

	Better resource planning
	Better deliverable tracking
	Project decision points throughout the project
	Tighter project control and risk management
	Earlier identification of problems
	And increased process consistency from project to project

Process Groups
Process groups are part of every project, whether we realize it or not.Â  The Project Management Institute defines the five project management process groups as Initiating, Planning, Executing, Monitoring and Controlling, and Closing.Â  PMI states that &quot;collectively, these five groups are required for any project; [they] have clear internal dependencies, and must be performed in the same sequence on each project.&quot;Â  A lot of folks interchange the phrase &quot;project management process group&quot; with &quot;project phase&quot; without really knowing truly what the differences are.Â  However, the PMBOK is quite clear that &quot;Project management process groups are not project phases!&quot;Â  Just like your brother Frank does not equal &quot;rocket scientist&quot;.Â  Sorry Frank!

True, some industries use project phases that resemble the naming conventions of process groups, but process groups are repeated throughout the project and even throughout a phase.Â Â Â 


Guide to the Project management Body of Knowledge, 3rd Edition, 2004, Project Management Institute, PA, 2004, FigureÂ 3-2 p40.
Putting It All Together
Let&#039;s use a simple example to demonstrate the difference between project phases and process groups.Â  Let&#039;s even choose an industry we are all familiar with - our lives!Â Consider the lifespan of a person.Â  Would you agree that there are different phases within a human life?Â  You start off your life for the first 20 or so years in the Childhood phase.Â  You move on and enjoy the Young Adulthood phase between the ages of 21 and 41. Â Then comes the Midlife phase from 42 to 62, Â Elderhood Phase between 63 and 83, and then the Late Elderhood Phase.Â  Each phase in your life has certain milestones and deliverables, such as learning to walk and talk, graduating from school, getting married, having children, having grandchildren, sometimes even great-grandchildren, retirement, and then the day when you get to meet the great program manager in the sky!

Now, getting back to Process Groups,</itunes:summary>
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